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Under the gun

By WENDY JEFFCOAT, T&D Staff WriterMonday, May 22, 2006

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One of the “rogue gun dealers” New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg singled out in a lawsuit filed by the city last week has said he and his employees have done nothing wrong.

“We haven’t done anything illegal here,” said Chan Holman, owner of Woody’s Pawn and Jewelry. “We’ve been in business for 35 years, and it’s an embarrassment to myself, my employees and our families.

“Gennie (Fields), my fiancee, and myself have worked very hard over the past 10 years to build this business, to change the perception of a pawnshop, and negative publicity like this just crushes any positive headway that we’ve made.”

Accused of violating federal gun sale laws, Woody’s is one of the 15 pawnshops in five states and two in South Carolina named in the lawsuit. The remaining businesses are located in Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

The lawsuit claims Holman and the other gun dealers were negligent in sales that took place during a six-week period in which investigators from the James Mintz Group, a private investigative firm employed by New York City, traveled to five states to confirm whether or not the 15 stores in question were violating federal firearm sales laws. New York officials say a total of 500 crime guns recovered between 1994 and 2001 by the NYC Police Department had been traced to those stores.

The investigators reportedly entered the businesses in teams of two and simulated what is commonly referred to as a “straw purchase,” where one individual submits to a federal background check for a firearm that will clearly be used by someone else.

The suit seeks monetary damages from the shop owners, the appointment of a special master to monitor the dealers and mandatory training for sellers.

“Today, we are sending a message to rogue gun dealers across the nation: straighten up and follow the law — or face the consequences,” Bloomberg said in a press release May 15, the day his administration announced the lawsuit. “We can’t afford to allow out-of-state dealers to sell illegally — too many people die every year because they do. This lawsuit is (a) major step forward in our efforts to keep illegal guns out of our city.”

Holman, who had not been served with the lawsuit as of Friday afternoon, said his shop is regulated and audited quarterly by the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives because of the high volume of gun sales at the store.

“We have to send a quarterly report on firearms acquired and sold,” he said. “If I was doing anything illegal, I would not still be open for business.”

Holman said to his knowledge, the accusations against Woody’s stem from a sting operation that took place on April 19 of this year at his store. He said a black male and black female entered the pawnshop, and the man asked about the guns and decided to buy one.

When the time came to purchase it, the pair tried to get the firearm in the female’s name.

Holman said the purchase was denied, and the female allegedly returned later to purchase the weapon.

“We did the right thing. We denied the sale,” he said. “Being that we sold the most guns that ended up in New York, they were gunning for this business. With the number of guns we sell, they would have never stopped.”

He said he has been trained by ATF on straw purchases and his store “has never sold any illegal guns.”

“I can’t control what people do with them when they leave this store,” Holman said. “I sell between 50 and 100 handguns a month, and I would never jeopardize my business with anything illegal, with selling firearms.

“I think it’s nothing but a political move by Mayor Bloomberg, and going after small business owners is not going to improve the crime rate in New York.”

He said the data from 1994-2001, in which 98 handguns used in the commission of crimes in New York were linked back to the Russell Street shop, is misleading because during that same time, Woody’s sold as many as 10,000 guns, making it 1 percent of the firearm merchandise the shop sold that ended up in the Northeast and was involved in criminal activity.

Holman said he doesn’t see where straw purchases are a problem in Orangeburg. Neither does local law enforcement — or at least that’s what the records say.

Since 2000, “We have no records of making any charges related to straw purchases,” Capt. Thad Turner of the Orangeburg Department of Public Safety said. “We have a good number of violations — carrying or possessing a weapon during the commission of a crime, felon in possession of a firearm, unlawful carrying of a weapon” but none, Turner said, dealing specifically with straw purchases.

Chief Wendell Davis said several years ago, the Orangeburg Department of Public Safety worked with ATF to monitor pawnshops in Orangeburg and their use of proper procedures when selling firearms.

He said it’s ironic that this lawsuit has come about years after they completed a similar operation because of the disproportionate number of weapons ATF had found making their way from South Carolina to New York and other cities along the East Coast.

“I do know at one point the volume of weapons that came out was of concern to agencies along the East Coast,” Davis said. “We have not had any indication that that activity is still prevalent.”

As for the undercover operation taking place in town, “If they were successful, we were not aware of it,” he said.

“We monitor them (pawnshops) all the time. What we do is make sure they adhere to the purchasing laws. We were looking into that location, along with all pawnshops,” Davis said. “It’s one thing we constantly monitor. Certainly, it’s always a concern. We don’t want to have a situation where people convicted of felonies are purchasing firearms.”

Woody’s Pawn and Jewelry’s long-time attorney, Charles Williams, said he believes the case against the 15 pawnshops is illegitimate.

He said making it the pawnshop owner’s responsibility for what happens after the purchase of a gun is tantamount to suing a private citizen for selling his or her gun to someone, who in turn sold it to someone else who ultimately committed a crime.

“If he sold it legally and didn’t violate the law, I don’t see a case,” Williams said. “I just think it’s political. I think Bloomberg’s trying to get publicity.”

He said the guns have merely been traced back to Woody’s and other pawnshops, but there’s no telling how many hands those guns passed through along the way and, for all anyone knows, those initial sales were legal.

“If they want to sue him, they need to come to South Carolina to sue him,” Williams said. “I think gun laws, in my opinion, aren’t very good. Anybody who wants a gun can get a gun.”

Williams said he has spoken with Holman but declined to comment on what was discussed.

“The whole issue is gun control,” he said. “That’s what it all boils down to.”

As for straw purchases, Williams said, “In fact, this is the first time I heard about that. I’m sure it happens, but that doesn’t mean the dealer knows.”

He said dealers may refuse someone one day who will in turn find a relative or friend to go and purchase them a gun the very next day. Williams said the dealer may have no clue as to what is taking place, adding “Would it be fair to sue them?”

“I just think if he (Bloomberg) has got a case, it should be brought to South Carolina, and I don’t think he has a case,” Williams said.

Bob Daley and William Witherspoon of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Columbia said the office could not comment on the pending lawsuit or the issue, as it is not directly involved in the case and has not seen the lawsuit.

Holman’s current concerns follow suit with Williams’.

“My main concern is how New York City has jurisdiction to sue me in South Carolina,” Holman said. “I’ll do everything possible financially to prove to this town and New York City that I have done nothing wrong.

“I just think it’s a total embarrassment in a small town like this, and I’m going to do everything I can to prove we have done nothing wrong. I don’t want the people of Orangeburg to believe these false accusations that Mayor Bloomberg has come up with.

“Bloomberg has already tried to sue gun manufacturers and distributors and lost. I don’t see him winning against the small dealers.”

n T&D Staff Writer Wendy Jeffcoat can be reached by e-mail at wjeffcoat@timesanddemocrat.com or by phone at 803-534-1060.

 
20 comment(s)
The following comments are reader submitted. They do not represent the views of The T&D or Lee Enterprises.

tg wrote on Dec 30, 2006 4:21 PM:

" I think woodys should file a law suit againt bloomberg for slander.I have been dealing with woodysfor over 20 years and nothing like this has ever happened. "

DICK wrote on Aug 2, 2006 12:19 PM:

" CHAN IS THE MAN!! "

Melissa S. Orangeburg wrote on Jun 13, 2006 1:45 PM:

" I think that Woody's is innocent. Once a gun leaves their store ( by means of a legal gun sale ) they cannot be held accountable for what happens with the purchased gun. Americans need to wake up. Criminals kill with guns, not the other way around. "

Sarah wrote on Jun 12, 2006 7:01 PM:

" The mayor of New York City did the right thing. Woody's Pawn Shop does not care about this community and what happens to the people in this community. That pawn shop is all about profit. Woody's Pawn shop is known for illegal activity as well as being greedy pawn shop owners. I'm surprise they are still in business. "

A law abiding gun owner wrote on Jun 7, 2006 10:50 PM:

" Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Bloomberg is trying to make a name of himself and is trying to blame his high crime city on something other than his own police force that can't control the crime. KEEP SELLING THE GUNS CHAN!! "

T.M, Smith wrote on Jun 6, 2006 11:35 PM:

" Me and my family are long time supporters of the Republican Party. We are however against guns. Mayor Bloomberg is a Republican also who is against guns. I support the Mayor of New York. (Bloomberg) This is not about the South against the North, but about Woody's Pawn Shop breaking the law. I am a PROUD southern bred Republican conservative man. I am against guns. "

molly c wrote on Jun 6, 2006 6:24 PM:

" Woody Pawn Shop has broken the law plain and simple folks. The mayor of New York did the right thing. I am a 7th generation Southerner born and raised in Orangeburg County. My family are big supporters of the Republican Party. We have never and never will own a gun in our home. "

Houston wrote on Jun 6, 2006 12:33 PM:

" This is the south for goodness sake. We have guns! We will continue to have guns. So, for you yankees that can't handle that, please go back to the north and stop worrying about crime in the south. Thanks!! "

Thomas wrote on Jun 5, 2006 6:34 PM:

" I know of women who purchase hunting firearms for their husbands for Christmas or birthdays, and saw personally one such transaction where it was openly stated that the firearm was for her husband for Christmas. I'm not sure, but unless the person purchasing the weapon knowingly transfers the weapon to someone who may not legally own it it might be legal. Unless the seller has knowledge that the person the weapon is transferred to cannot legally own it, which the pawnshop cannot know, what law has he broken? I myself have legally purchased firearms. If I unknowingly sell one to a felon is the shop where I purchased it liable? "

D. Dantzler wrote on Jun 5, 2006 10:02 AM:

" Let me start by saying that I'm not a member of the NRA. I don't care about the right to bear arms. However, read the article before you blast Woody's Pawn Shop. It's alleged that they are knowingly allowing people to come in with other patrons and buy a gun which is immediately handed over to the other patron whom for whatever reason can't legally obtain a firearm. I don't know how you could prove that, but the person to blame is the person that is commiting the act of purchasing the firearm for the person who can't obtain it, not Woody's Pawn Shop. Woody's can only check to make certain that the person paying for the gun can obtain one. Anytime I've purchased a weapon they have acted with a sense of professionalism and have called and made all of the checks before handing over the firearm. Ultimately, I don't see how crime in New York has anything to do with Woody's Pawn Shop, and it's just a political move by Bloomberg. And on gun control, if you pull all of the guns for sale the only people that will have them will be the criminals. Most criminals obtain their guns on the underground market anyway and not at locations like Woody's Pawn Shop where they can be traced. "

A Concern Citizen wrote on Jun 3, 2006 2:40 PM:

" This is not the first time Woody has been accused of wrongdoing. And, if you don't like the message don't kill(Bloomberg) the messenger. "

laura b wrote on Jun 2, 2006 9:24 PM:

" Woody's Pawn shop should be held accountable. I totally agree with the previous comments.... Its interesting how we think its ok to sell guns to those without a license...then when the crime is commited against you are a love one .... we want to hold those responsible accountable. It starts with ilegal purchases at places like Woody's Pawn Shop! Woody is more concerned with making a dollar than your community safety! I SUPPORT THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK! YOU SHOULD TOO... THE CRIME IS COMING TO A SWEET QUITE CALM PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU FOLKS....WILL WOODY'S PAWN SHOP BE ON YOUR SIDE "

Ted wrote on Jun 1, 2006 6:27 PM:

" Horray for the mayor of New York, we need more leaders like him. "

Lisa G. wrote on Jun 1, 2006 6:24 PM:

" Gun control is needed. People like Woodys Pawn Shop need to be punished. Stop directing you anger toward the Mayor of New York. We as a community should protest the sale of guns in Pawn Shops! Those Pawn shops are all about profit. We are mad at the wrong person..... get mad at these greedy pawn shops! "

marshall wrote on Jun 1, 2006 5:37 PM:

" I say Good for Mayor Bloomberg! Woody's pawn shop should be held responsible for selling guns to those who should not have them. We as Americans are so in support of personal accountability... but we are not holding these people who break the law accountable... YES! Woodys Pawn Shop has BROKEN THE LAW! Hold them accountable! Make them take responsibilty. OH one more thing fine citizens of Orangeburg County.... Those guns purchased from Woodys Pawn Shop are coming to a neighborhood near you.. the crime might be in your own backyard! :-) "

Bob wrote on Jun 1, 2006 5:28 PM:

" I support Mayor Bloomberg in his effort to regulate gun purchases. Woody's pawn shop is located in a high crime area. Therefore increasing his sales of guns. These guns are being used by drug dealers in lower income high crime neighborhoods. When the crime is brought to your community we as middle class to upper class Americans will be on Bloombergs side. I say hold Woodys Pawn Shop accountable! It has to start somewhere. We as a community need to be realistic about crime in America. Trust me.... if we don't hold Woodys Pawn Shop accountable now.... you will when your family has been a victum of a serious crime. P.S. The Policeman that made that statement..... Where is your support on the War against CRIME??? That is not an intelligent thing to say as our Chief of Police of Orangeburg County. "

r.linet wrote on May 29, 2006 9:19 PM:

" originally coming from NY myself but currently residing in S.C. I can tell you that Mayor Bloomberg has a reputatuion for being notorius anti-gun. He would not even allow the NRA to open a theme restautant in Times Square. He is nothing but an anti-gun Democrat dressed up in a Republican suit!. "

Alan Yates wrote on May 29, 2006 3:09 PM:

" I think a court order against Bloomberg and his hired trash needs to be the first response. He's apparently attempting to intimidate lawful business operators into closing. Blooming~idiot~berg announcing that "we can't afford to allow out-of-state dealers to sell"..., (illegally, or otherwise seems an attempt by an egoist to establish power where he has none.). Whether dealers in other states sell, and how they sell, is way beyond none of New York's affair. "

Gray wrote on May 26, 2006 5:13 AM:

" Bloomberg should be arrested for solicitation of a Federal felony. "

David wrote on May 24, 2006 5:55 PM:

" I think Woody's Pawn & Jewelry should sue Bloomberg for slander, libel and defamation of character. It certainly was a publicity stunt, right along with the anti-gun meeting with 15 other city mayors (one of which I am embarrassed to say came from my part of the country... Dallas, TX) which was held at the time. I also think that the private investigators that had contracted with Bloomberg to carry out his escapade should be indicted for felony charges, since they themselves committed the straw purchases they claim to have made. The law doesn't state "unless you're a PI or working for Bloomberg when committing the straw purchase", so I think they should be held accountable for their actions. Good journalism, Wendy! "



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